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January 31[edit]

Category:Sylvester James songs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Sylvester (singer) songs. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Sylvester James songs to Category:Sylvester songs
Nominator's rationale: Rename. I don't think there's another singing Sylvester whom this guy might be confused with and he's not known by his full name as a performer. His article is at Sylvester (singer) but I don't think the category needs the parenthetical. I Want My GayTV (talk) 22:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Governors of Russian America[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. If they were known in English as "governors," then that's the term we should be using in our English Wikipedia.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:36, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Governors of Russian America to Category:Governors of the Russian-American Company
Nominator's rationale: They were governors of the company and employed by the company (which happened to have a monopoly), not government employees. Just like Category:Governors of the Hudson's Bay Company. TheMightyQuill (talk) 20:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The Russian-American Company article indicates that the government took the company over in 1818. The term "Governors" may also be an issue as the article indicates these people were called Russian for "Chief Managers" and were known only in English as "governors". (I have no direct knowledge of this subject area and am unsure of the reliability of the article.)RevelationDirect (talk) 01:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake, but the point remains. It was a primarily a commercial position, not a political position. The title "Chief Manager" that you mention illustrates this clearly. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 03:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mercedes-Benz platforms[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Mercedes-Benz model codes.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Mercedes-Benz platforms to Category:Mercedes-Benz development codes
Nominator's rationale: Rename. These are not platform names. >Typ932 T·C 15:14, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • type932 makes a valid point. These are internal model codes and are not related to individual platforms as the codes are different for say, an estate or coupe, even though they could share significant underpinnings. Not sure if development codes is quite the right name though. Warren Whyte (talk) 11:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: as they are not "platform codes". However, these codes are used beyond the developmemt phase, so "Mercedes-Benz model codes" is more appropriate. The convention should also apply for BMW, Toyota, et cetera. OSX (talkcontributions) 08:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:World Wrestling Entertainment Armageddon[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. The parent category is definitive. Ruslik_Zero 14:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:World Wrestling Entertainment Armageddon to Category:WWE Armageddon
Nominator's rationale: To match parent article. Armbrust Talk Contribs 14:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Library and information science[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Library and information science to Category:Library science
Nominator's rationale: Rename. The corresponding article has long since been split into Library science and Information science, but the categories still remain at Category:Library and information science and Category:Information science. —Ruud 13:42, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Compiler theory[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Compiler theory to Category:Compiler construction
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Common name. —Ruud 13:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Static code analysis[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Static program analysis tools. Ruslik_Zero 14:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Static code analysis to Category:Static code analysis tools
Nominator's rationale: Rename. The static code analysis tools should be separated from the theory and algorithms. (Split has been performed, this category currently only contains the tools.) —Ruud 12:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cities in California[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Incorporated cities and towns in California. Ruslik_Zero 14:42, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Cities in California to Category:Municipalities in California
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Teh "cities" category is defined as including all incorporated cities and towns, which equates to "municipalities" the subject of the parent. Rich Farmbrough, 11:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC).[reply]
  • Merge per nom. I moved List of cities in California to List of municipalities in California going on two years ago. As that list explains, CA municipalities may be formally titled as "cities" or "towns," but those labels are completely arbitrary and do not indicate any substantive distinction, which is why they were listed all together, and why they are categorized all together. Compare with other states that have separate classes of municipalities that are distinguished by population and lawmaking abilities, where it makes sense to categorize and classify them separately. postdlf (talk) 13:24, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rocket Richard Trophy winners[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:42, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Rocket Richard Trophy winners to Category:Maurice Richard Trophy winners
Nominator's rationale: Per the NHL (see [1]), the trophy is named for Maurice Richard using his given first name and not his nickname. --Kinu t/c 08:37, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Streams of Zionism[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename per nom. Ruslik_Zero 14:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Streams of Zionism to Category:Types of Zionism
Nominator's rationale: The creator of this category User Midrashah (talk · contribs) is clearly working from a rough Israeli-Hebrew language "translation" to English. However, similar categories on the English Wikipedia use the word "Types" for this kind of categorization, such as Category:Types of communities; Category:Types of military forces; Category:Types of organization; Category:Types of museum; Category:Types of horses; Category:Types of scientific fallacy, etc, etc, etc. All of which are correct and appropriate usage of English as applied to a WP category's name, as this category should be, per general guidelines in Wikipedia:Category names. (This could perhaps be a C2C Speedy per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion#Speedy criteria, but this CfR allows for greater due process.) IZAK (talk) 07:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • translation of "stream" also means kind of "denominations". In any case, whatever the best translation is acceptble to me. I would leave it up to English natives to make the chose. --Midrashah (talk) 10:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom's comments. I agree that it's not necessary for WP to adopt the traditional phrasing in this case, as we're not dealing with a proper noun with an article to which WP:COMMONNAME would apply. "Types" would seem to be the regular modern English way of referring to this topic. Perhaps the nominated category could be retained as a category redirect. Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:HTTP[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus to rename. Ruslik_Zero 14:47, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:HTTP to Category:Hypertext Transfer Protocol
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per main article, Hypertext Transfer Protocol. This category had been nominated in March last year with its sub-categories; while there was a clear consensus not to rename the whole batch, the consensus on this one was not quite so clear. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Program analysis[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Ruslik_Zero 14:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Program analysis to Category:Computer program analysis
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Fix ambiguity with other kinds of programs, such as nonprofit programs and ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Social programs, and make the category name self-explanatory. The main article was recently moved to Program analysis, which seems fine, but the category should be easily identifiable regardless of context. Pnm (talk) 04:38, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Basins of the continental coast of the English Channel[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. A subcategory or subcategories can be created if needed to distinguish between French and British areas, but with two entries now, this seems unneeded.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:35, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Basins of the continental coast of the English Channel to Category:Drainage basins of the English Channel
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Basins is ambiguous. This is also a triple intersection that may not be defining. Proposal simplifies the name and hopefully add clarity. It may be desirable to also move these contents into Category:Drainage basins of the United Kingdom in addition to renaming or use that as an alternative to the proposed rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:43, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Basins of New Zealand[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename per nom. Ruslik_Zero 14:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Basins of New Zealand to Category:Drainage basins of New Zealand
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Basins is ambiguous. One of these clearly is a drainage basin, the other gives no idea from the article what it is. Delete, upmerge or other rename should be considered. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:24, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, our article for the Wakatipu Basin describes it as being much smaller than independent sources do, e.g. Te Ara. --Avenue (talk) 00:16, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, they are by your own words, within drainage basins. What are you proposing as an alternative? If this rename were done wouldn't we at least be moving in a correct direction with the name? Of the two articles in this category, only one is identified as intermontane and so far this has not been deemed in need of a category. So the merge as proposed and the creation of Category:Intermontane basins could also be a solution. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:22, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not only are they part of a drainage basin, they are the upper part. So they are coherent drainage basins - just not ones that are typically identified as such. So maybe the proposed renaming is fine. There are other NZ basins that are not coherent drainage basins, such as Hamner and Kaitoke Basins. These are pull-apart basins with a river running in one side and out the other (the Waiau and Hutt Rivers respectively). But since we don't have articles for those basins, I guess we don't have to worry about them at present. Okay, rename as proposed. --Avenue (talk) 10:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Basins of Germany[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Basins of Germany to Category:Drainage basins of Germany
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Basins is ambiguous. Both of these are for river basins which should fall into the drainage basins categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:19, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Basins of Slovenia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Drainage basins of Slovenia. There was no consensus on "Slovenia" versus "Adriatic Sea", though, so further discussion on that point could prove useful. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Basins of Slovenia to Category:Drainage basins of Slovenia
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Another single entry ambiguous category. I would not oppose deletion. I'm basing this rename on what little information the article has, but it does appear to be a drainage basin. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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